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…ecks (leejet#1976) Offloaded models (params backend != compute backend) load params lazily into the compute device's host-pinned buffer type (Vulkan_Host, pinned system memory). That pool is invisible to the compute device's heap report, so capacity checks stayed green while host availability collapsed and the Vulkan submit path ran out of system memory (leejet#1976: submit OOM at segment 38/54 with the device heap 84% free and host availability at ~0.5 GB). The host dimension of CapacityCheck counts only bytes this request would allocate through host-visible buffer types: unloaded params whose params buffer type is host-pinned, plus staging bytes when the compute backend's default buffer type is host-visible. Device-local staging and prefetch remain on the device/budget dimensions, so device-local allocations are never rejected based on system RAM. A host failure feeds the existing eviction path, which reclaims params storage blocks and staged replicas. Windows-scoped via GlobalMemoryStatusEx; Linux needs the sysinfo equivalent.
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- Around line 1921-1929: Update the final refusal `LOG_WARN` near
`result.fits()` to include required and available host memory alongside the
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| for (TensorState* state : states) { | ||
| if (state == nullptr) { | ||
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| if (model_manager_buffer_type_is_host_pinned(params_buffer_type_for(*state))) { | ||
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| if (!state->loaded_to_params_backend && state->tensor != nullptr) { | ||
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Do not recompute parameter placement for resident states.
params_buffer_type_for probes operator support. For a loaded tensor, device_supports_param_op rejects the tensor because weight->buffer != nullptr. Both probes can fail, so the function logs an error and returns nullptr. Repeated capacity checks can therefore log errors and fail to set host_pool_in_use for a loaded operator tensor whose parameter buffer is host-pinned.
The loop also charges ignored and optional-missing tensors. The normal parameter-loading path skips those states, so they can remain unloaded and their bytes can be counted as missing host capacity.
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Update the TensorState loop to skip null, ignored, and optional-missing states.
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- Skip ignored/optional-missing states in the host loop and probe placement only for unloaded tensors (the operator probe rejects loaded ones); detect the in-use host pool from existing host-pinned params storage blocks instead. - Demote host-pinned offloaded ParamBackend storage to Disk residency under host pressure so eviction can actually reclaim the host pool (previously only Disk-mode blocks were releasable and only device-resident params were demotable). - The final fallback now honors requires_reclamation, and the refusal warning prints the host dimension.
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- Around line 2103-2107: Update the demotion flow so eligible host-pinned states
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| // Host-pinned parameter storage of an offloaded model reloads from | ||
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| // still freed (the pinned copy is a separate allocation). | ||
| const bool host_pinned = host_pinned_states.find(state) != host_pinned_states.end(); | ||
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Evict host-pinned states and restore their residency after release.
can_demote_to_disk accepts an eligible host-pinned state, but add_evictable_state uses staged_to_compute_backend as its residency check. An offloaded host-pinned state therefore never enters eviction_states, so this reclamation path can evict device staging while retaining the host-pinned parameter block.
Insert host-pinned states directly into eviction_states:
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state->residency_mode = ResidencyMode::Disk;
demoted_states.push_back(state);
- add_evictable_state(state);
+ if (host_pinned_states.count(state) != 0) {
+ eviction_states.insert(state);
+ } else {
+ add_evictable_state(state);
+ }
if (release_eviction_states()) {
+ for (TensorState* demoted : demoted_states) {
+ if (host_pinned_states.count(demoted) != 0 &&
+ !demoted->loaded_to_params_backend) {
+ demoted->residency_mode = ResidencyMode::ParamBackend;
+ }
+ }
revert_demotions();
return true;
}The second change is required because revert_demotions() restores only states whose storage remains loaded. execute_graph can later call assign_compute_backend for the same graph. A released state still marked Disk makes params_follow_compute true, so assign_compute_backend can set params_backend = compute_backend. prepare_params then reloads the tensor using the compute-backend buffer policy instead of the offloaded host-pinned policy.
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…et#2166) add_evictable_state tests residency through staged_to_compute_backend, which host-pinned offloaded params never satisfy (they are resident via their parameter block). Insert demoted host-pinned states into eviction_states directly so the demoted block actually becomes releasable under host pressure.
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992-992: 🚀 Performance & Scalability | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick winRun memory queries only when segment diagnostics are enabled.
This block queries backend memory before every segment, even when no verbose message will be used. On Windows, it also makes two system-memory queries per segment. The queried values have no other use here. Gate the block on a diagnostic setting so ordinary segmented execution does not pay for the probes. The GGML API defines
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- Around line 2106-2107: Update the eviction flow around `can_demote_to_disk` to
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- Around line 1926-1928: In CapacityCheck, keep the 1 GiB host watermark
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| if (status.ullAvailPhys < host_reclaim_watermark) { | ||
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Do not turn the 1 GiB reclamation watermark into a hard refusal.
requires_reclamation becomes true whenever ullAvailPhys < 1 GiB. This happens even when required_host_bytes is only the 1-byte floor and available_host_bytes is positive. The changed final check at Lines 2131-2132 now rejects the request whenever requires_reclamation is set. fits_compute_backend_capacity also rejects it.
Consider a Windows machine where other processes or resident pinned weights hold available memory between 512 MiB and 1 GiB. After eviction, nothing evictable is left. ensure_compute_backend_capacity then returns false and the run fails. Before this change, the same request continued. The code comment describes 1 GiB as a "proactive reclamation watermark", but the code uses it as a refusal threshold.
Keep the watermark as an eviction trigger only. Use a separate flag for it. fits() inside ensure_compute_backend_capacity can treat that flag as "keep evicting". The final check should accept the request when fits() holds and only the host watermark flag is set.
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struct CapacityCheck {
...
bool requires_reclamation = false;
+ bool host_reclaim_advised = false;- if (status.ullAvailPhys < host_reclaim_watermark) {
- result.requires_reclamation = true;
- }
+ if (status.ullAvailPhys < host_reclaim_watermark) {
+ result.host_reclaim_advised = true;
+ }In ensure_compute_backend_capacity, make the eviction-loop fits() lambda also return false when host_reclaim_advised is set. Keep the final check as !requires_reclamation && fits().
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In CapacityCheck, keep the 1 GiB host watermark separate from
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| const bool host_pinned = host_pinned_states.find(state) != host_pinned_states.end(); | ||
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Demote host-pinned states only when the host dimension fails.
can_demote_to_disk now accepts every eligible host-pinned state, whatever dimension caused the failure. This includes builds without _WIN32, where available_host_bytes is always SIZE_MAX and the host dimension never fails. When device memory or budget is the only failing dimension, this loop still demotes and releases host-pinned offloaded parameter blocks. Releasing them does not free device memory, so fits() stays false. These weights must then be reloaded from disk.
This adds disk reloads after device-pressure eviction, and those reloads do not help the request fit.
Run the initial check once before eviction. Accept host-pinned states only when host memory is short.
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+ const auto initial_capacity = check_capacity(request, required_states);
+ const bool host_short = initial_capacity.required_host_bytes > initial_capacity.available_host_bytes ||
+ (initial_capacity.requires_reclamation &&
+ initial_capacity.available_host_bytes != SIZE_MAX);
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- const bool host_pinned = host_pinned_states.find(state) != host_pinned_states.end();
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+ host_pinned_states.find(state) != host_pinned_states.end();
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Update the eviction flow around `can_demote_to_disk` to run the initial
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Only allow `host_pinned_states` to make a state eligible for demotion when that
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Thanks for the full review. Answers per finding below, plus one piece of new measured context: three additional full-rig runs overnight on the #1976 recipe, under an unusually host-pressured machine state, turned the watermark-policy question into a two-sided experiment. Finding B - Nitpick - Finding A -
The "pressured" column is one night's machine state (page cache inflated by an earlier 11.4 GB reload plus background RAM), and the shipped head failing there - after two full completions on the quiet state - is the discriminant: those overnight failures are machine-state dominated, not a property of either variant. But the two policy failures in that column are structural:
So neither "refuse at the watermark" nor "accept if it fits" is the upstream answer; each fails a different real machine state. The candidates already listed in the PR body are the ones aimed at the actual failure mode: retry-on-driver-failure with demotion (react after the dip, no speculative churn) and admission control at model load, with device-local placement of replicas (the device heap sat 84% free throughout) as the deeper structural option. We are keeping the shipped head's conservative behavior for now (refuse rather than crash on this machine class) and are happy to prototype the retry path if that is the preferred direction. |
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Follow-up with the validation numbers for finding B (promised in my reply above): both readings of "host-memory pressure" were implemented and each run to failure on the full #1976 rig (same seed/recipe as the completing runs in the PR table), plus a control run of the shipped head in the same daytime machine state.
The structural fact behind all three rows: this workload's own footprint (pinned params pool + offloaded text encoder + staging) drives a 32 GB machine below the 1 GiB watermark around step-1 segment 35, every run, from any starting state (~22 GB free at launch in today's runs). The two completions passed that point because their dips were shallow enough to be absorbed by the three small demotions and never landed on a main-path capacity check after those were spent. One dip deeper, the only reclaimable candidate is the 11.36 GB block, and its reload churn kills the submit with every reported dimension healthy — a driver-side allocation failure the accounting cannot see. Note the head cannot cleanly refuse in that situation either: demotion always runs before the final acceptance, so with big blocks remaining it churns instead of refusing. That is why we are not pushing a demotion-eligibility change: on this machine class every static edge of the policy is now measured to fail somewhere — refusal kills the workload outright, watermark-triggered demotion churn-crashes under deeper dips (both readings, and the shipped head itself, three runs across two builds), unconditional demotion likewise. The candidates the PR body already lists — retry-on-driver-failure with demotion, or admission control at model load — remain, in our view, the only directions that can hold across machine states; happy to prototype one if there is interest. The behavior-neutral parts (the |
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Thanks for the investigation. Host-memory pressure looks relevant, but I don’t think the root cause is fully established yet. If both execution paths retain the same host parameter weights, merging 54 segments into 2 should not reduce their total RAM footprint. What specifically changes that allows the merged path to complete? Allocation timing, transient memory peaks, prefetch residency, or driver resource lifetime could explain the difference, but we need measurements to distinguish them. Also, vk::Queue::submit: ErrorOutOfDeviceMemory does not identify which allocation or memory heap failed. Low available system RAM is useful evidence, but it does not by itself establish the exact failure mechanism—especially given the latest failures with both device and host memory reportedly available. Please compare the merged and unmerged paths at equivalent execution points, separating host parameter buffers, device weight replicas, and temporary allocations. That should help explain both the original failure and why merging sometimes avoids it, before we commit to a reclamation policy. |
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ModelManager::check_capacity, accounted by actual placement: only bytes allocated through host-visible buffer types count against host availability; device-local staging and prefetch stay on the device/budget dimensions and are never rejected based on system RAM.Vulkan_Hostpool is the lazily-pinned parameter buffers (not compute replicas) — see trace below.Allocation-path trace (per review ask)
params_backend != compute_backend(--offload-to-cpu),params_buffer_type_for()returnsggml_backend_dev_host_buffer_type(compute_dev)— on Vulkan that isVulkan_Host, whose allocator isggml_vk_host_malloc()(pinned system memory).prepare_params()runs per segment, so each segment lazily pins one ~210 MB params block; blocks are retained, and a dense-cut-marker plan pins the whole model (~8.2 GB here) on the host. This is the growingVulkan_Hostpool — not compute replicas.stage_tensors_to_compute_backend()allocates viaggml_backend_get_default_buffer_type(compute_backend)— device-local on Vulkan.populate_prefetch_block()uses the same compute-backend default buffer type — device-local on Vulkan.Measured consequence on the #1976 workload (instrumented stock master): host availability fell 11.2 GB → 0.17 GB over 36 segments while the device heap stayed 84% free and every gate reported
fits yes;vkQueueSubmitthen failed withErrorOutOfDeviceMemory(log linked below).The change
CapacityCheckgainsrequired_host_bytes/available_host_bytes(included infits()), plus a host reclamation watermark:required_host_bytes= bytes this request would allocate through host-visible buffer types (unloaded params whose params buffer type is host-pinned; staging bytes only when the compute backend's default buffer type is host-visible) + 1 byte so the floor itself is enforced whenever the host-pinned pool is in use, even for requests that pin nothing new.available_host_bytes=availPhys − 512 MiB(GlobalMemoryStatusEx, Windows; other platforms leave the dimension inert pending a sysinfo equivalent).requires_reclamation = truewhenavailPhys < 1 GiB, feeding the existing eviction path proactively (measured: ~0.5 GB is consumed between a passing capacity check and the following submit, so reacting only at the refusal floor is too late).The first two commits are log-only instrumentation (per-segment capacity verdicts, device/host memory snapshots, prefetch activation results) — drop them if you prefer the PR minimal.
Validation
Repro: #1976 recipe (MiniMax H3 ref2va 864×480, 22 frames, 8 turbo steps,
--offload-to-cpu --max-vram 10, RX 6950 XT 16 GB / 32 GB RAM, Vulkan, seed 42, 5-frame ref rig).Iterations that got here (same rig, all runs prefetch hits with 0 misses):
The review fixes were decisive: the placement probe no longer misfires on loaded tensors, ignored/optional states no longer count as missing host bytes, and — critically — host-pinned offloaded parameter storage is now demotable to Disk residency so eviction can actually reclaim the host pool.
The accounting is placement-correct and the reclamation path demonstrably recovers the host pool. Remaining policy question for machines under heavier host pressure than this one: retry-on-driver-failure with demotion, or admission control at model load; device-local placement of replicas when the device heap has room (it sat 84% free throughout) remains the deeper structural option.
Logs: stock instrumented OOM · completing run, PR head · watermark iteration · completed run, earlier variant
Related Issue / Discussion
#1976 (MiniMax-H3 path; LTX-2.5 and Wan 2.2 paths not addressed here)
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