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Should the patronymic view read Kazakh -ұлы/-қызы written as one word? (Тилектес Серикбайулы АДАМБЕКОВ gives patronymic '') #1188

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Kazakh writes a patronymic as one word, the father's name plus -ұлы ("son of") or -қызы ("daughter of"): Тілектес Серікбайұлы АДАМБЕКОВ. Russian-language records spell it -улы/-кызы (Серикбайулы). Neither pack's patronymic test reads it: RU matches Russian endings (-ович, -евна), and TR_AZ matches only a marker written as its own word. Measured on master ccaf6ad, with the roles right by position under every setting:

Input patronymic (default, RU or TR_AZ)
Тилектес Серикбайулы АДАМБЕКОВ ''
Самат Базарбайұлы МУСАБАЕВ ''
Самат Базарбаевич МУСАБАЕВ under RU Базарбаевич

The same senator appears both ways in the source, Базарбаевич in Russian and Базарбайұлы in Kazakh.

Measured (2026-11-08) on Kazakhstan's Mazhilis and Senate (OpenSanctions kz_mazhilis, kz_senate, 145 members): of the 94 three-word names, 70 write a Russian-style patronymic and 19 the Kazakh one. Counting the Kazakh-language spellings the datasets give as aliases, 83 spellings hold -ұлы/-улы/-қызы.

A smaller case of the same gap: Russian patronymics in Azerbaijani spelling, -oviç and -yeviç (ZABELİN Mixail Yuryeviç), 2 of Azerbaijan's 124 deputies (OpenSanctions az_parliament). The Latin endings list -ovich only.

Questions

  • Should the patronymic view read -ұлы/-улы/-қызы written as one word, and under which choice: RU (the records are Russian-format), a Kazakh pack, or TR_AZ?
  • The collision: since the 1990s some Kazakhs use a -ұлы form as their surname (Қасымұлы). A word with the ending in the family position would then fill the patronymic view wrongly, much as an -ович surname does under O1 (Should O1's rotation skip a name that opens with an initial? (И. Б. Зубкевич gives family И. under locales.RU) #1185).
  • Add -oviç/-yeviç/-ovna to the Latin East Slavic endings, or treat Azerbaijani spellings of Russian patronymics as out of scope?

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