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Should an initial glued to a name split at its period? (Ц.Сандаг-Очир gives given 'Ц.Сандаг-Очир', no family) #1235

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In Mongolia, the official short form of a name is the initial of the father's name, a period, and the given name, written with no space: Ц.Сандаг-Очир, У.Хүрэлсүх. Parliament, ministries and the press write names this way. The parser reads the whole thing as one word (measured on master ccaf6ad):

Input default FAMILY_FIRST
Ц.Сандаг-Очир given Ц.Сандаг-Очир, given-or-family the same
Ts.Sandag-Ochir given Ts.Sandag-Ochir, given-or-family the same
Ц. Сандаг-Очир given Ц., family Сандаг-Очир given Сандаг-Очир, family Ц.
J.Smith given J.Smith, given-or-family the same

Once the space is written, the name divides and the order decides which word is which. Without the space, nothing divides it.

How often (2026-11-08):

  • The State Great Khural's own API (parliament.mn/api/meeting/public/member/<id>/speeches/, field member.short_name) writes all 126 current members this way, and every one reads as a single given name under every order.
  • In 500 of the Khural's news articles (parliament.mn/api/news/articles/), a single Cyrillic capital and a period come before a capitalized word with no space 4,689 times (595 distinct names). The same pattern written with a space occurs 8 times.
  • Wikidata's mn labels for Mongolian citizens use the glued form too (С.Нарангэрэл, Д.Баттулга, Х.Лхагвасүрэн).
  • In Latin script, Should B.Pharm, C.Psych and M.Kes be listed credentials, now that Ahmed Ali M.Hassan loses its surname to the same guess? #998 measured a glued initial and name 1,179 times across six local corpora, 1,116 of them read as a single name word.

What the shape already means. nameparser/AGENTS.md's full-stop sweep lists "a joined word or name closed by none (St.John, J.Smith)" as one spelling of a period inside a word, and rules/R4 (case repair reads the unjoined mark) recases J.Smith as one word. Other spellings of the same shape are not names: credentials written in two chunks (B.Pharm, M.Kes, #998), a title glued to a name (Dr.John, #1230), and a saint particle glued to a surname (Sta.Ana, #1071).

Questions

  • Should one cased letter, a period and a name word split into an initial and a name word wherever the joined word is not listed? B.Pharm and M.Kes are the cost, unless Should B.Pharm, C.Psych and M.Kes be listed credentials, now that Ahmed Ali M.Hassan loses its surname to the same guess? #998 lists them first.
  • Or only where the letter is not Latin? In Cyrillic the shape has no listed credential to collide with, and Mongolian writes nothing else this way.
  • Once the word splits, Ц.Сандаг-Очир reads like Ц. Сандаг-Очир: right under FAMILY_FIRST, and the initial as given under the default. Should a glued initial take the family under the default? That is the same question as the spaced form, a pack question for Mongolian.
  • Does a split change J.Smith's case repair (R4), or the given-or-family it reports today?

Related: #998, #1230, #1071, #1136.

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