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In Mongolia, the official short form of a name is the initial of the father's name, a period, and the given name, written with no space: Ц.Сандаг-Очир, У.Хүрэлсүх. Parliament, ministries and the press write names this way. The parser reads the whole thing as one word (measured on master ccaf6ad):
| Input | default | FAMILY_FIRST |
|---|---|---|
Ц.Сандаг-Очир |
given Ц.Сандаг-Очир, given-or-family |
the same |
Ts.Sandag-Ochir |
given Ts.Sandag-Ochir, given-or-family |
the same |
Ц. Сандаг-Очир |
given Ц., family Сандаг-Очир |
given Сандаг-Очир, family Ц. |
J.Smith |
given J.Smith, given-or-family |
the same |
Once the space is written, the name divides and the order decides which word is which. Without the space, nothing divides it.
How often (2026-11-08):
- The State Great Khural's own API (
parliament.mn/api/meeting/public/member/<id>/speeches/, fieldmember.short_name) writes all 126 current members this way, and every one reads as a single given name under every order. - In 500 of the Khural's news articles (
parliament.mn/api/news/articles/), a single Cyrillic capital and a period come before a capitalized word with no space 4,689 times (595 distinct names). The same pattern written with a space occurs 8 times. - Wikidata's
mnlabels for Mongolian citizens use the glued form too (С.Нарангэрэл,Д.Баттулга,Х.Лхагвасүрэн). - In Latin script, Should
B.Pharm,C.PsychandM.Kesbe listed credentials, now thatAhmed Ali M.Hassanloses its surname to the same guess? #998 measured a glued initial and name 1,179 times across six local corpora, 1,116 of them read as a single name word.
What the shape already means. nameparser/AGENTS.md's full-stop sweep lists "a joined word or name closed by none (St.John, J.Smith)" as one spelling of a period inside a word, and rules/R4 (case repair reads the unjoined mark) recases J.Smith as one word. Other spellings of the same shape are not names: credentials written in two chunks (B.Pharm, M.Kes, #998), a title glued to a name (Dr.John, #1230), and a saint particle glued to a surname (Sta.Ana, #1071).
Questions
- Should one cased letter, a period and a name word split into an initial and a name word wherever the joined word is not listed?
B.PharmandM.Kesare the cost, unless ShouldB.Pharm,C.PsychandM.Kesbe listed credentials, now thatAhmed Ali M.Hassanloses its surname to the same guess? #998 lists them first. - Or only where the letter is not Latin? In Cyrillic the shape has no listed credential to collide with, and Mongolian writes nothing else this way.
- Once the word splits,
Ц.Сандаг-Очирreads likeЦ. Сандаг-Очир: right underFAMILY_FIRST, and the initial as given under the default. Should a glued initial take the family under the default? That is the same question as the spaced form, a pack question for Mongolian. - Does a split change
J.Smith's case repair (R4), or thegiven-or-familyit reports today?
Related: #998, #1230, #1071, #1136.
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Activity
Dr.John Smith,Ц.Сандаг-Очир,Yu. A. Chibrikova) #1255